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The Yellow Pine Times is a not for profit newsletter dedicated to sharing news and events.

Road Reports April 17, 2019

Note: as of this morning Hwy 55 is still closed, but expected to be open this afternoon.

Rain on snow is bringing down the snow pack, sometimes into the roads and rivers. The only way to get to Yellow Pine is via the South Fork route. It is still travel at your own risk and remember there is no cell phone service. Trees and/or rocks may be down in the road. Higher elevation roads are closed. Conditions change VERY quickly this time of year. Please share road reports and take photos of rocks and slides so they can be passed along to the plow operator.

Yellow Pine: We have received a little rain in the last 3 days. Local streets are bare.
Click for Local Forecast.
Yellow Pine Webcam: (check date on image)

Warm Lake Highway: Wednesday (Apr 17) mail truck driver (Dean) reports the highway is clear.
SNOTEL Big Creek Summit 6580′

Highway 55 Webcams Link:
Big slide closed Hwy 55 Tuesday (Apr 16) morning between Smith’s Ferry and Banks. They hope to get the road open this evening (Apr 17.)

South Fork Road: Wed (Apr 17) mail truck driver reports the road is clear this morning.
Note: The maintenance by Valley County has ended for the season and turned back to the USFS.
Tea Pot Weather Station 5175′
South Fork Stream Gauge:

EFSF Road: Wed (Apr 17) mail truck driver reports the road is clear this morning.

Lower Johnson Creek Road: Mail truck driver reported on Wed (Apr 17) the road is bare out to Wapiti Meadow Ranch. Big berm at the end of the plowing.
Johnson Creek Airstrip Webcam:
Johnson Creek Stream Gauge:

Upper Johnson Creek Road: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
The elevation at Landmark is 6,630 feet

Lick Creek: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The elevation at Lick Creek Summit is 6,877 feet

Profile Creek Road: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The elevation at Profile summit is 7607 feet.

Big Creek Webcam: (check date on image)

Yellow Pine to Stibnite: Road is still closed.
Stibnite Road Update From Midas April 16, 2019
On Monday, April 8 an overnight avalanche and subsequent disturbance along Stibnite Road (Forest Highway 48 – FS Road #50412) between the Village of Yellow Pine and the historical Stibnite mining district caused extensive damage and forced the closure of the road.
The main slide, which is estimated at 100 feet high, pushed snow, timber, and debris across the East Fork of the South Fork of the Salmon River, and Stibnite Road. Over a half-mile stretch of road is impassable.
Some sections have been washed away near Tamarack Creek, while other sections of the road are piled high with debris. At the time of the slide, Midas Gold had two team members on site at Stibnite and additional staff in Yellow Pine. Since then, our team established a safe path to traverse around the slide on foot and maintain access to the site.
We are working closely with state and federal officials to assess the situation, stabilize the area and determine the appropriate steps to take to repair the river and road once conditions are safe. Valley County, which has maintenance jurisdiction over the road, issued a local emergency declaration and will lead the work once final approval is received from coordinating agencies.
We anticipate the first phase of work to stabilize the area will begin soon.
Stibnite Weather Station 6594′

Stibnite to Thunder Mountain: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The elevation at Monumental Summit is 8590 feet.

Big Creek to Elk Summit to Warrens Road: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The elevation at Elk Summit is nearly 9000 feet.

Deadwood Summit: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The approx elevation at Deadwood Summit is 6,883 feet.
SNOTEL Deadwood Summit 6860′


Bird of the Week Red-breasted Nuthatch

Red-breasted Nuthatch
(click image for larger size)
Red-breasted Nuthatch
Sitta canadensis
Size and Shape: A small, compact bird with a sharp expression accentuated by its long, pointed bill. Red-breasted Nuthatches have very short tails and almost no neck; the body is plump or barrel-chested, and the short wings are very broad.
Both Sexes
Length: 4.3 in (11 cm)
Weight: 0.3-0.5 oz (8-13 g)
Wingspan: 7.1-7.9 in (18-20 cm)
Color Pattern: Red-breasted Nuthatches are blue-gray birds with strongly patterned heads: a black cap and stripe through the eye broken up by a white stripe over the eye. The underparts are rich rusty-cinnamon, paler in females.
Learn more about this bird: The Cornell Lab of Ornithology

Note: These birds live year around in Yellow Pine

Link to Birds Page

Apr 14, 2019 The Yellow Pine Times

Apr 14, 2019 The Yellow Pine Times – Valley County, Idaho

Community Calendar:

April 2 – boil water order
April 21 – 2pm Easter pot luck at the YP Tavern
May 5 – 3pm Taco Feed at the Community Hall
May 20 – Deadline 2019 Festival T-Shirt Contest
May 25 – ATV-UTV Scavenger Hunt Memorial Day Weekend
June 11 – Vet Day Yellow Pine
June 29 – Highland Games
July 6 – Golf Tournament & Breakfast
July 13 – Ride to Big Creek
July 18 – (tentative) Noxious Weed Spray day
Sep 14 – Ride to Cinnabar

(details below)

Local Events:

April 21 2pm Easter pot luck at the YP Tavern

Fried Chicken and Potato Salad provided by the Tavern
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May 5, 2019, 3pm, Taco Feed at the Community Hall

In thanks for the great support of the community, the Community Hall Committee is giving back.

A Taco Feed will be held at the Community Hall on May 5th at 3pm. The Community Hall is providing the fixin’s.

Please join us for good food and to check out the progress that has been made in the Community Hall.

Thanks again for all your support.
Kathy Hall
Community Hall Chairman
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2019 Festival T-Shirt Contest – Deadline May 20

The contest for the 30th Annual Yellow Pine Music Festival T-shirt logo is open!
This year’s theme is “Then and Now”.
The winner receives $100!
Your one-color design* must include the following:

* 30th Annual
* 2019
* Yellow Pine Music Festival
* musical instruments incorporated into the design

Designs must be submitted electronically to or by snail-mail to Yellow Pine Festival, PO Box 10, Yellow Pine, ID 83677
All submissions must be received by 5:00 p.m., Monday, May 20, 2019.
Submissions become the property of the Village of Yellow Pine Association.

*Note: We have learned that simple designs show and sell better.
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June 11 – Vet Day

On Tuesday June 11th the Cascade Vet clinic will be coming to Yellow Pine. Please call (208) 382-4590 to get on the list.
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June 29 – Highland Games

For the second year, Bald Mountain Knuckle Draggers will bring the Highland Games to Yellow Pine on June 29th. Last year they donated over $2,600 to the Helipad and this year money will be raised for the water department. Come see these fantastic athletes and support the water department.
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Golf Tournament

It’s time to plan for the annual 4th of July Yellow Pine Golf Tournament. This year the proceeds will support the Community Hall and road repair.

The event will begin July 6th at 11am at the golf course, where the fairways aren’t fair and the greens aren’t green. The cost will remain the same at $50 per couple for sponsoring a hole with a sign displayed. $20 for individuals, each person playing will get a ticket for beer, additional tickets can be purchased for $3. Soda and water are free. Checks can be written to VYPA (Village of Yellow Pine Association)

There will be prizes for first, second and third places for men’s women’s and mixed. Also, there will be a prizes for closest to the pin. Spots go quickly, so be one of the first!

There will be a hearty breakfast at the museum from 8-10. The cost is $6 and all proceeds benefit the upkeep of the museum.
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Noxious Weed Spray day July 18

Hello Yellow Pine,

I’m beginning my transition from snow plowing to noxious weed control. Yellow Pine is 1st on my list to start talking about dates to schedule our 2nd annual noxious weed Homeowners assistance spray day. Last year we got together on Thursday, July 19, 2018. I tentatively have Thursday, July 18, 2019 marked on my calendar.

We had really good participation last year but we can do better, lets start talking now and get more people involved as it is “Everyone’s responsibility to control Noxious and Invasive plants”. I think last years event went very well, we will try and be a little more organized this year, if we missed someone put them on top of the priority list. I will bring my entire crew, all of our equipment, PPE, and mixed herbicide, you provide the volunteers, we’re here to help you not do it for you.

I misplaced 1-backpack sprayer last year, please keep your eyes peeled in case we laid it down someplace or forgot to pick it up.

Spread the word, save the date. I look forward to hearing from you. The best way to contact me this time of year is through e-mail, I will be in and out of the office until May, I check my e-mails daily but I can’t always respond until I get back into the office.

Thank you,
Steve Anderson
Valley County Weed and Pest Control
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2019 Yellow Pine Escapades

The 2019 schedule for the Yellow Pine Escapades has been updated on the website!

Expect new escapades this coming year, including an ATV-UTV Photo Scavenger Hunt; two (yes, two) ATV-UTV rides, a golf tournament, and even a community yard sale. Other events will be added to the calendar as plans are finalized.

Join us for a great season of fun! The starting point for fun in Yellow Pine! The website includes information on the events hosted by the Yellow Pine Community Hall as well as the other “goings-on” in the village. Food, lodging and fuel are available in Yellow Pine.


Village News:

Spring Rock Migration Season

Rain on snow events had the roads closed on and off from Sunday night thru Tuesday afternoon. Below are photos and updates.

Sunday Night – A report of a large rock blocking the South Fork Road, no location given.

Monday – Reports that large rocks were blocking the East Fork of the South Fork road just upstream from Caton Creek Monday morning April 8th.

Photo courtesy of John Byrne

Crews from Cascade and Yellow Pine cleared both roads before noon Monday, but trees and rocks were still coming down. The mail truck made it in OK. Early afternoon a new slide on the South Fork blocked the road in the Poverty Flats area. Crew from V. County road dept. cleared it enough for the mail truck to get out later in the afternoon.

Monday afternoon avalanche, location across the EFSF river from the Eiguren Ranch

photo by John Byrne

Photo of the avalanche log jam in the East Fork of the South Fork river Monday afternoon – and reports of more mud, rocks and trees coming down on the roads.

photo by Chris Eaton

Tuesday Updates – Video of the EFSF river by John Byrne
FB video link:

Tuesday April 9, EFSF river

photo by Chris Eaton

A report that the log jam on the EFSF is breaking up on its own and headed down river. The river is really “ripping” and running chocolate brown. Johnson Creek is running clear and no problems so far.

As of noon Tuesday the roads from Yellow Pine out to Cascade are open.

Tuesday – from Midas Gold (this is about halfway between Yellow Pine and Stibnite.)

An overnight slide is currently blocking a section of Stibnite Road and the East Fork of the South Fork of the Salmon River. Right now, a half mile stretch of the road is blocked near Tamarack Creek and, in places, the river is running up onto the road. Our team is developing a plan to safely clear the slide and we will start work as soon as possible. We are closely coordinating all of our efforts with our state and federal partners.

link to photo gallery on FB from Midas Gold:

It may be a while before the road is open to Stibnite. (Helicopter flying Wednesday.)

Wednesday – roads were back to “normal” Spring travel, the mail truck only had to stop 3 times to move rocks on the South Fork road.
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Tick Season

It is official, ticks are out.

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Power Outages

We had 2 quick power blips this weekend, lasting just long enough to reboot the computers. One on Saturday around 245pm and again today around 5pm.
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Yellow Pine water system on boil order until further notice

The Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) has placed the Yellow Pine Water Users Association Public Water System on a boil order until further notice.

The water system has had perpetual issues this winter with meeting water treatment requirements of produced water and with maintaining enough volume in the storage tanks. The problem could most likely be solved by reducing water system usage. Until that occurs:

* Not flushing the water to waste for 24 hours or until turbidity returns to pre-scrape levels after a sand scraping event, is cause for a boil order.

* Opening the orifice plate on the sand filter(s) to let more water through allows the water to pass through the sand too fast, and is cause for a boil order.

* Not maintaining a certain minimum water level in the storage tanks reduces the “contact time” to below engineered timeframes, and is cause for a boil order.

* Using more water than the water system can produce will cause depressurization events within the water system, and is cause for a boil order.

Yellow Pine’s water system has not been able to maintain all of these requirements on a consistent basis and none of the contingency efforts have proven to be successful.

Your Drinking Water Operator, Warren Drake, will provide you with the public notification, and with a Certification Form. The Public Notification needs to be posted within 24 hours, and the filled out Certification form and a copy of that notice must be sent to me within 10 days. The water system will receive a violation if a Certification Form is not received by DEQ.

If you have any questions, please call me at (208) 373-0457.

Thank you,
Richard Lee Drinking Water Analyst
Idaho Department of Environmental Quality

see attachments:
PWS #ID4430059 -Yellow Pine – CT Ratio Disinfection Violation Public Notification January 2019.pdf

#4430059 Yellow Pine Water Users Boil Water Notification 4-2-19.pdf
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Missing US Flag

A report that the US Flag at the Kiosk on main street went missing. If you have any info, please contact the YP Tavern. A temporary flag will be hoisted until a replacement flag arrives.
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History of the log cabin at the Cemetery

The Cemetery Committee is interested in any information on the cabin that is located by the cemetery. We know that it had been on the property that was known as “Mary’s Cabins”. It was moved by Tom Richter while the Filler’s were building their house. Donna Valdez said that the people who ran the cafe and bar slept there, before the Tavern was built.

Do people have pictures or any information they can share? We’d love to put a plaque up on the cabin while we repair it.

– Marj Fields
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Please share road reports, if you see a slide or rocks down, please take a photo so it can be shared with the plow driver.
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Yellow Pine Transfer Station

A report March 14 that the transfer station was emptied. A report March 15 that the dumpsters are empty, but there is trash strewn between and behind the bins. Road report March 17 that the ice floor is starting to break up, slushy during warm afternoons.

Please do not abuse our Transfer Station or we may lose it. Household trash must be placed in the bins, flattened cardboard boxes can also go into the bins. Do not stack trash in front of the doors. Woody yard debris only for the burn pile. No furniture, appliances, tires or construction debris allowed, those items must be hauled out to the Donnelly station by you.

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Come Spring…

“To Yellow Pine residents. I will be making several trips next spring and summer hauling out metal, appliances, etc. . If you need anything hauled away please get on the list. Vehicles require a title. I will be hauling gravel back if anyone is interested.”

Contact Mike Amos
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Yellow Pine US Mail

We are on 3-day a week mail delivery from Cascade. The Post Office in Yellow Pine is open six days a week: M-F 845am-245pm Saturday 9am-245pm. Forever Stamp: 55 cents
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Bears are out of hibernation and hungry. Please do not leave pet food outdoors and remember to keep trash secured, it will draw bears, foxes, coyotes and loose dogs.
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Ice Hole Campground Closed

The Campground has been temporarily closed to provide for public safety during reconstruction. This order will be in effect from September 27, 2018 through July 2, 2019, unless rescinded earlier by the Forest Supervisor. (0402-04-80)

Local Groups:


Boil order issued April 2, 2019

Winter Water Advice

To help prevent frozen water, avoid parking over buried water lines, allow the natural snow cover to insulate the ground. Driving over the lines will also push the frost deeper and can result in frozen pipes. Also, don’t plow the snow over where water lines are buried, and avoid covering up water shut off valves.

link to: 2018 September Water Department Update.docx
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VYPA News:

VYPA Meeting Dates 2019

June 8th; July 20th; August 10th; September 14th.

Note that the July 20th meeting is not on the second Saturday due to a conflict with a planned ATV rally involving many residents and visitors.

Yellow Pine Harmonica Meetings 2019:

March 30, 2019 Saturday 2pm at the Tavern
April 23, 2019 Tuesday 2pm at the Tavern
May 23, 2019 Thursday 2pm at the Community Hall
June 20, 2019 Thursday 2pm at the Community Hall
July 27, 2019 Saturday 2pm at the Community Hall
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YPFD News:

The next meeting to be May 18th, 2019 at the Community Hall

Yellow Pine Fire Protection District Updates:

Fire Department Training on Sundays at 11am will resume in the Spring.

The YPFD has 2 Size Chimney Brushes with extension rods that were donated for use around YP. If you would like to borrow one, please contact Cecil or Jeff and we’ll get them for you. The YPFD also has loanable mitigation tools, (Weed-Whacker, Hedge Trimmer, backpack blower and 16’ pole saw). If you would like to borrow one or all, please contact Cecil or Jeff and we’ll get them for you.

It’s also time to check the Smoke Alarm batteries and Fire Extinguishers. Please test the alarm and replace Smoke Alarm Batteries every year, if you have the replaceable battery type. Fire Extinguishers should be checked as well and should be easily seen and reachable. A good location for the Fire Extinguishers would be the kitchen and near the wood stove and/or fireplace. The needle should be in the green.

If you need a Smoke Detector or Fire Extinguisher for your YP residence please contact Jeff F.

Smoke Alarm Info:

Biz Listings:

Yellow Pine Lodge (208) 633-3377

Closed for winter
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The Corner (208) 633-3325

Closed for winter
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Yellow Pine Tavern (208) 633-2233

Winter Hours at the Tavern: 9am-2pm and 4-8pm Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat and 9am-2pm Sun. Or call 208 633-2233 the phone rings into the house.
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Buck Horn Outfitters LLC
Link to FB page:

Deadwood Outfitters
Link to website:
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Local Fuel Suppliers

Amerigas Phone: (208) 634-8181
Ed Staub & Sons Phone: (208) 634-3833
Diamond Fuel & Feed (208) 382-4430 Suet blocks (peanut crunch, and cherry).
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Outside Biz that will service Yellow Pine:

Elkhorn Heating & Cooling
(208) 906-4067 Middleton, Idaho, Will service Yellow Pine

B&T Safety Solutions LLC
208-271-1600 Based out of Donnelly
Snow removal, cleaning chimneys and stoves, we do cabin staining/chinking as well
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Local Observations:

Monday (Apr 8) 24 hours of rain gave us 1.18″ in the gauge, overnight low 37 degrees, low clouds and steady rain this morning, about 3″ old snow/ice remains. Jays, finches, robins and a red-wing blackbird calling. The river is louder than last evening. Reports of slides and rocks blocking the roads. Still raining and overcast mid-day. Crews cleaned up last night’s slides and the mail truck made it in, then another slide came down on the South Fork. A few finches visiting. Still raining and overcast mid-afternoon, high of 46 degrees. Report that a crew from Cascade has been dispatched to the slide on the So. Fork. Flickers, jays and robins calling. Steady rain at dusk. A report our local plow drive had to go out yet again this evening, trees down in the road this time. Rained all night.

Tuesday (Apr 9) another 24 hours of rain gave us 0.91″ in the gauge, overnight low of 36 degrees, low clouds and light rain this morning, about 2″ old snow/ice remains. Jays, finches and robins calling. It stopped raining before lunch time, low misty clouds. Jays and finches visiting. Short rain shower (with a few blobs of snow) mid-afternoon and breezy, breaks in the clouds at times, high of 47 degrees. A report of a yellow-headed black bird. Flickers calling from all over the neighborhood. Cloudy at dusk, light breeze, robins calling, river getting louder. Snowing after midnight.

Wednesday (Apr 10) overnight low of 32 degrees, 3/4″ new snow and flaking this morning under cloudy skies, about 2.5″ snow/ice (about half the ground is bare.) Jays, robins and finches calling. Cloudy and a little breezy mid-day. Finches and female hairy woodpecker visiting. Occasional flakes of snow, light breezes and overcast mid-afternoon, high of 42 degrees. Jays and flickers calling. A few flakes of snow fell mid-evening. Elk wandering around the lower end of the village just before dusk and robins calling. At dusk it was overcast and a little above freezing. A few stars out before midnight. Snowed during the night, probably started after 2am.

Thursday (Apr 11) overnight low of 29 degrees, 1 1/4″ new snow and snowing lightly this morning, low overcast, about 3″ snow/ice (average.) Jays, robins and finches calling. Breezy mid-day and early afternoon snow showers. Finches and 2 hairy woodpeckers visited. Mid-afternoon storm passed thru with snow/hail/rain and breezy, high of 47 degrees. Broken clouds late afternoon. Elk wandering around the neighborhood. River sounds a little louder. Broken cloud cover and robins chirping at dusk. Some stars out after midnight.

Friday (Apr 12) overnight low of 30 degrees, overcast (top of VanMeter foggy) and light breeze, about an inch average old snow/ice, more than half the yard is bare. Finches, jays and flickers calling. Snow showers mid-day and breezy. Hairy woodpecker and finches visiting. Mid-afternoon short shower of graupel (little ice balls), high of 48 degrees. Mid-evening rain shower. Broken clouds at dusk and robins hopping around and calling. May have rained around 10pm, roofs looked wet at 1030pm. A “freckle of graupel (little snow balls) during the night.

Saturday (Apr 13) overnight low of 31 degrees, mostly clear sky and light breeze. Most of the snow has melted, about an inch remains in the shade (and old piles of snow.) Finches, jays and robins calling. Buds swelling on aspens and lilacs. Mostly cloudy by mid-day, high of 49 degrees. Hairy woodpecker, jays and finches visiting. Power blinked off and back on at 234pm. Overcast and blustery mid-afternoon. Light drizzle before dusk and low clouds, probably sprinkled half the night.

Sunday (Apr 14) overnight low of 35 degrees, overcast this morning, very little snow remains in the shade. Finches visiting, jays, robins and flickers calling. Cloudy mid-day, light breeze. White-breasted nuthatches and finches visiting. Overcast and breezy mid-afternoon, high of 47 degrees. Chipmunk, hairy woodpecker, jays and finches visiting. Power blinked off and back on around 5pm-ish. Cloudy at dusk.


Richard Henry Filler

June 9, 1945 – April 9, 2019


Richard Henry Filler, 73, a resident of Yellow Pine, passed away April 9, 2019 in Boise.

No public services are planned. Arrangements are under the direction of Bowman Funeral Parlor of Garden City. 208-853-3131.
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Richard Henry Filler, died Tuesday, April 9, 2019. He was born June 9, 1945 in Pasadena, California. Richard spent his formative years in Sheridan, Oregon. He had three careers in his lifetime. He was first a bank manager; then self employed; and lastly, his most satisfying, with Child Support Enforcement for the State of Idaho. He retired in 2001 and spent many wonderful days camping in Idaho’s mountains. His love of the Yellow Pine area became a passion and in 2008 he and his wife purchased property in Yellow Pine, built their home and became full time residents.

Richard is survived by his wife, Deb; his children, Frank (Hermalyn) and Annette (Talitha); step daughter, Linnea (Rick), brother, Ron (Loretta); and three grandchildren. He was a steadfast, loyal friend and protector, with a strong commitment to his beliefs.

“Sleep well, my love. You are with me until I join you for our next journey.”

Idaho News:

Injured hunter rescued in Valley County

Apr 10, 2019 KIVI

Photo by: Idaho National Guard

[Valley County], Idaho — A seriously injured hunter was rescued near Yellow Pine, Idaho on Wednesday.

On Tuesday, April 9th, 2019 about 2 p.m. the Valley County Sheriff’s Office received a report that a man was badly injured while hunting for antler sheds about 5 miles south of the Yellow Jacket Ranch, located on the South Fork of the Salmon River.

Cody Morrow, 21, of Kooskia, ID was in the Bear Creek Drainage and was reported to have sustained numerous broken bones, head trauma, and a punctured lung. He was unable to move.

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Floodwaters, mudslides block traffic on Idaho 55

By Max Silverson for The Star-News April 11, 2019

Valley County roads were hit hard by rain-fueled spring runoff Monday and Tuesday, with water overflowing several roadways and causing a partial closure on Idaho 55.

Water flowing over the road about 14 miles south of Cascade on Idaho 55 caused the Idaho Transportation Department to close one lane of traffic on Tuesday until the flow subsided.

Another mudslide on Idaho 55 about four miles south of Smiths Ferry crossed the road and was contained by road crews, but rocks and mud on the hillside were still unstable, Idaho Transportation Department Public Information Specialist Jake Melder said.

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Message about Highway 55

April 8, 2019 ITD

Idaho Transportation Department (ITD) is currently working on Highway 55 between mile markers 101-102 due to mudslides and water over the road. This area is one mile north of Rainbow Bridge. Expect delays as they have closed it to one lane with flaggers, alternating directions. This is expected to go through the night. ITD will update us as soon as they can with further information.
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New Meadows declares emergency after flooding

City’s sewer system threatened by Little Salmon R. overflow

By Drew Dodson for The Star-News April 11, 2019

The City of New Meadows declared a state of emergency on Tuesday morning after rising floodwaters poured over roadways and threatened to breach the city’s sewage storage pond.

The declaration enables the city to receive help in the form of personnel, equipment and money from Adams County, which also declared a state of emergency on Tuesday.

The county’s declaration is the “first step” in getting the state to declare an emergency, which would provide state funding to reduce the burden on the county and city, Adams County Emergency Manager Carol Walsh said.

“We have not reached the need for a state declaration yet, but it is a probability,” Walsh said.

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Landslide blocking U.S. 95 north of Council

ITD is warning drivers to be alert for rock or mudslides and inches-deep water on the road.

KTVB April 9, 2019

Council, Idaho — U.S. Highway 95 is completely blocked in both directions after a landslide sent earth and rocks tumbling onto the roadway Tuesday.

The slide occurred sometime Tuesday morning between the towns of Council and New Meadows. The closure area stretches from Milepost 140 to Milepost 160.

According to the Adams County Sheriff’s Office, clearing the debris from the road will take hours. Drivers should take a different route.

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Highway 95 closed again due to flooding after mudslides closed it earlier

ITD is warning drivers to be alert for rock or mudslides and inches-deep water on the road.

KTVB April 9, 2019

Council, Idaho — U.S. Highway 95 is closed again after it was closed for several hours Tuesday and later reopened after a landslide sent earth and rocks tumbling onto the roadway.

Highway 95 from Weiser to Payette is now closed due to flooding. The Idaho Transportation Department closed the highway again Tuesday night and stated it would be closed overnight. All traffic is being diverted to Highway 201 in Oregon.

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Highway 95 reopens after flooding, mudslide

The Washington County Sheriff’s Office says the route was now clear, but drivers need to remain cautious.

KTVB April 11, 2019

Weiser, Idaho — U.S. Highway 95 has reopened in both directions after emergency crews spent days grappling with mudslides, erosion, and high water.

The Washington County Sheriff’s Office said Thursday afternoon that the route was now clear, but urged drivers to be cautious, as the slopes above the highway remain unstable.

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Flooding reported from Adams to Payette counties; Code Red alerts issued

Apr 09, 2019 By Steve Bertel KIVI TV

Flooding from spring runoff is causing water to run or pool on top of U.S Highway 95, Idaho Highway 52, and Idaho Highway 55 throughout the Central Mountains, from McCall/New Meadows area to the Fruitland/Payette areas near the Oregon border. The Idaho Transportation Department is urging motorists approaching these hazards to use caution.

“Heavy rain and melting snow are causing isolated hazards in the Weiser, Payette, and Salmon Drainages,” said ITD spokesman Jake Melder. “This includes the cities of Weiser, Council, New Meadows, McCall and Cascade. Hazards created by flooding may be pooling, erosion, mudslides, rockfall, and water running over the top of roadways.”

ITD crews are out in force mitigating these hazards with warning signs and, where possible, cleaning up debris. The Department reminds motorists who come upon these hazards to exercise caution.

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Families stranded, road crews stretched thin as Idaho battles flood waters

Five families near Council are stranded without power after the bridge to their homes was wiped out by flooding.

Misty Inglet April 10, 2019 KTVB

Council, Idaho — Flooding is continuing to leave damage behind in its wake across parts of Idaho on Wednesday.

U.S. Highway 95 from Payette to Weiser has been closed since Tuesday night because of all the water across the road.

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Gov. Little declares state of emergency for Idaho County

by CBS 2 News Staff Thursday, April 11th 2019

Grangeville, Idaho (CBS 2) — Idaho Gov. Brad Little has declared a state of emergency for Idaho County.

The governor on Wednesday issued the declaration for “extraordinary spring flooding.”

The north-central Idaho county has been hit hard by spring runoff and some residents had to be rescued by emergency crews including the Idaho Army National Guard and Boise Fire.

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Parts of Washington County under water after countywide flooding

“There was a really loud roar and then our house started shaking.” One homeowner describes the effects of flooding in the county.

Misty Inglet April 9, 2019 KTVB

Washington County, Idaho — Washington County, Idaho is dealing with flooding across several areas after snowmelt and spring runoff led to rising river levels that washed out river banks and some roads.

Two of the areas in the county that are seeing the most flooding are Weiser and Cambridge. The Idaho Transportation Department says flooding can be seen along much of Highway 95.

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Boise Fire and Idaho National Guard save 5 people near Grangeville

The two teams actually got the call to rescue the people while they were training for that exact scenario.

KTVB April 9, 2019

The Idaho National Guard and the Boise Fire Department Dive Team worked together to save people from rising flood waters on Tuesday.

The two teams were actually training for that exact scenario when they got the call to action when the Clearwater River had flooded its banks and trapped five people in a home north of Grangeville.

Two people were airlifted and three others were able to wade through the waters to safety.

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Avalanche damages Board Ranch houses

IME April 8, 2019

The avalanche this afternoon carried heavy snow and downed trees into this residence on the Lower Board Ranch. Express photo by Roland Lane

Two houses were heavily damaged by an avalanche this afternoon that slid down a hillside of burned trees and onto the Lower Board Ranch, west of Ketchum.

Responders were dispatched at about 2 p.m. to the area of Whipsaw Lane and Cross Cut Lane, on the south side of the residential area accessed by Warm Springs Road.

Large amounts of snow laden with downed trees ended up on the residential properties. It was reported from the scene by first-responders that there were no injuries.

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Avalanche caught on camera hurtling down Ketchum mountainside

Video courtesy of Victoria Horst Jensen

KTVB April 9, 2019

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Melting snow creates these ‘wet slab’ avalanches in Blaine County

In the last week, Blaine County has experienced a dozen avalanches and now crews are being to clear the aftermath of them and find others that happened.

Shirah Matsuzawa April 10, 2019 KTVB

Ketchum, Idaho — Two avalanches hit Warm Springs Road near Ketchum on Sunday, one of which seriously damaged two homes, knocking one of the homes off its foundation.

In the last week, Blaine County has experienced a dozen avalanches and now crews are beginning to clear the aftermath of them and find others that happened.

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Heavy flooding on Nez Perce Reservation could lead to evacuations

The tribe’s executive committee has declared a state of emergency and is urging residents to be on the alert.

KTVB Staff April 10, 2019

Lapwai, Idaho — The Nez Perce Tribe’s executive committee has declared a state of emergency due to heavy flooding on and near reservation land.

Though rain is not expected today and water levels are declining, people are advised to take extra precautions and stay alert. Mudslides, landslides, and rockslides are still likely to occur.

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Cascade approves ‘dark sky’ regulations

City joins, McCall, Valley County with lighting rules

By Max Silverson for The Star-News April 11, 2019

The Cascade City Council on Monday voted to adopt a dark sky ordinance governing outdoor nighttime lighting in the city.

Cascade joins Valley County, which adopted a dark sky ordinance in 2004 that was updated in 2017, and McCall, which has had a dark sky ordinance in place since 2006.

The ordinance is intended to protect the skies over the city from light pollution by requiring light fixtures that cast little or no light upward.

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Spring 2019 Extension Events

University of Idaho Extension, Valley County

What a winter Valley County has had!

It’s wonderful seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

Spring is the time to prepare for gardening and ensure we start on the right foot to healthy beautiful lawns, If you have any concerns about soil health contact our office for soil sampling information.

We also have great publications available for high elevation gardening and landscaping that will help you address any questions you may have and prepare you for success.

Our office specializes in community development, agriculture, horticulture, and 4-H youth development programs.

link to: calendar

Scam Alert:

Idaho Attorney General warns of tax scams reported throughout state

by CBS 2 News Staff Thursday, April 11th 2019

Boise, Idaho (CBS2) — Attorney General Lawrence Wasden and the Idaho State Tax Commission are warning Idahoans of recent tax scams targeting people in the state.

The reported scams came to people in Middleton and Orofino through the mail.

“These mailings are particularly concerning because they show scammers are researching actual tax records and then tailoring their scam attempts specific to individuals,” Wasden says. “If there’s ever any reason to question the legitimacy of a tax document you receive in the mail, call tax officials – not on the numbers provided in the mailing – and check its authenticity. Be especially suspicious of anything that aggressively demands payment in a short amount of time.”


Public Lands:

Motorized trail closures imposed in Danskin Mountains

Contact: Boise National Forest Venetia Gempler (208) 373-4105

Boise, Idaho, April 8, 2019 — The Boise National Forest Mountain Home Ranger District has extended the closure for motorized access on all trails in the Danskin Mountain OHV (off highway vehicle) Area to minimize trail damage and protect resources due to lingering snow and continued rainfall that have led to very wet trail conditions.

Acting District Ranger Michael Brady extended the closure beyond April 10, after District staff inspected part of the trail system and encountered snow, tread damage, down trees and cut slope failure.

“We know this is a popular area for motorized trail users and we are asking them to help us maintain trail integrity and protect wildlife by delaying use during the spring snow melt,” said Brady. “We are monitoring trail conditions weekly and will open the area to motorized travel as soon as possible.” The closure extends through May, 31, 2019, unless rescinded earlier by the Forest Supervisor allowing the trail system to dry out and for crews to complete needed repairs.

Annually, trail restrictions are put in place starting Jan. 1 and last through the early season in order to reduce potential motor vehicle damage on soft or muddy trails. This closure prohibits all motorcycle and all-terrain vehicle travel on designated trails within the Danskin Mountains OHV Area.

The Danskin Mountains OHV Area is located about 20 miles east of Boise and involves nearly 160 miles of designated motorized use trails. Primary access routes and area trailheads are signed with the closure order. Citizens observing illegal activity are encouraged to report violators to Forest Service law enforcement officers.

Further information is available by contacting the Mountain Home Ranger District office at 208-587-7961.

To view the detailed description of the closure and map visit:

0402-01-89 Danskin Spring Trail Closure MAP.PDF

4-8-2019 – Extended Motorized trail closures Danskin Mountains.pdf

Letter to Share:

We need getting kids there. Rain or shine the party goes on. Everything is free except getting there. Please pass on to anyone who has kids. If you are a business, we are a 501C3 and if you or anyone can spare a little cash we can give you a receipt for your donation. Come see what we do and you can help.

Just for Kids!

Annual free just for kid’s day hunting and shooting at Little Canyon Shooting Inc. At the Peck, Idaho Ranch. Watch for directions signs from Hwy 12 to the ranch on the free day:

Sunday, April 14th 2019

Check in time 9 AM To 1 PM – hunting, shooting all day!

Shoot at a .22 rifle range, practice on the clay shooting range, practice on the archery range with life size targets, and then go to the open fields where 3 pheasants will be released for each hunter. Each youth will be assigned a safety advisor and will hunt with a dog and handler. After each youth has been through once, those that didn’t harvest a bird can go through again. The .22 small bore rifle range, clays, and archery ranges will be open all day or as long as we have shooters. There will also be tours of the bird hatchery.

There will be a complimentary lunch, and ammunition will be provided by vista outdoors in Lewiston. We have shotguns available for the younger hunters or you may bring your own. Remember, members and local sportsman will work dogs for the hunters and each youth will be assigned a safety advisor. Please call and let us know if you plan to attend. We also need sponsors if you can help!


Idaho Residents: Hunters safety certificate and Idaho hunting license.

Non-Residents: Hunter safety certificate and 502 class non-resident shooting preserve license (available on-site).

RSVP To let us know if you plan to attend: Call or email – 1-208-486-6235 lcs @

1-208-883-3423 jhag1008 @ The Gamebird Foundation

Help us find kids who are our future hunters and leaders and will help preserve our great American outdoor tradition.

Jim Hagedorn
Executive Director
The Gamebird Foundation

Critter News:

MCPAWS to offer free cat microchipping during four clinics

The Star-News April 11, 2019

MCPAWS Animal Shelter will offer free cat microchipping at four travel clinics beginning Saturday in Riggins.

The shelter sends 80 percent of lost dogs back to their owners, but less than 10 percent of lost cats, MCPAWS executive director Amber Kostoff said.

“Why the disparity? I can sum it up in one word: microchips,” Kostoff said.

Microchips are the size and shape of a small grain of rice and are inserted just under the skin on the back of a pet. Each chip is registered in a national database with the pet owner’s information.

Any shelter, veterinarian or animal control officer can find the owner of a lost microchipped pet in minutes.

“If your cat goes missing, you are 20 times more likely to find her if she is microchipped,” Kostoff said.

Stray cats and dogs that are not reclaimed are added to the pet adoption program, she said.

“We’ve given ourselves the goal of getting our feline return to owner rate into the double digits in 2019,” Kostoff said,

The travel clinics will be from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. at the following locations:

• Saturday: Riggins, Salmon River Heritage Center, 109 South Lodge St.

• Saturday, May 11: Council, American Legion Hall, 2046 U.S. 95.

• Saturday, June 22: Cascade, Cascade City Hall, 105 S. Main St.

• Saturday, July 20: New Meadows, New Meadows City Hall, 401 Virginia St.

Free microchipping is offered at any time at the MCPAWS shelter at 831 S. Third St. in McCall. Call 208-634-3647 to set up an appointment. Cats must be in carriers.

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Pet Talk – Increased blood pressure in dogs and cats

Dr. Karsten Fostvedt April 12, 2019 IME

Systemic hypertension is elevated blood pressure. We measure blood pressure in millimeters of mercury. Systolic blood pressure is when the heart is pumping at its maximum. Diastolic blood pressure occurs when the heart is at its maximum rest. In dogs and cats, pressure is measured with a blood pressure cuff in a manner similar to that in people, but special equipment must be used to detect blood flow in their tiny arteries. An increase in blood pressure can cause damage to the kidneys, eyes, heart and other organs.

In both dogs and cats, systemic hypertension is associated with chronic kidney disease. In dogs, adrenal gland disease can cause systemic hypertension. In cats, hypertension is a cause. Hypertension is a rare complication of some medications.

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KWVR Oregon Wolf Education weekly Wolf Report

First week of April 2019
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Record number of wolves in Oregon

The number of known wolves in Oregon at the end of 2018 was 137, a 10% increase over the previous year.

By Andrew Selsky Associated Press April 9, 2019

Salem, Ore. — A record number of wolves are roaming the forests and fields of Oregon, 20 years after the species returned to the state.

The Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife reported Monday that the number of known wolves in Oregon at the end of 2018 was 137, a 10% increase over the previous year. There are likely even more wolves because not all individuals or packs are located during the winter count.

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Wolf Education International

4/8/2019 Newsletter

Wyoming Wolf Data Final Report

Northeastern Wolves: Then and Now

State Of Idaho Funds Controversial Wolf Bounty Program
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4/11/2019 Newsletter

Wolves move into Dutch national park
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The Columbia Basin Bulletin

Weekly Fish and Wildlife News
April 11, 2019
Issue No. 903
Table of Contents

* Two More Days Of Spring Chinook Fishing, But Harvest Managers Wonder If Looking At ‘Really Poor Run’

* NOAA Releases New 2019 BiOp For Columbia Basin Salmon/Steelhead; Includes Flexible Spill, Take Provisions

* Court Hears Arguments For Immediate Changes At Willamette Dams To Aid ESA-Listed Salmonids

* Corps Begins Willamette Basin NEPA/EIS Process To Determine Dams’ Impacts On Wild Steelhead, Wild Spring Chinook

* Following New Sea Lion Removal Efforts, ESA-Listed Wild Willamette Steelhead May Post Best Run In 3 Years

* Conservation Groups Sue NOAA To Compel The Agency To Assess, Reduce Impact Of Salmon Harvests On Orcas

* As Flooding Hits Parts Of Basin, Water Supply Forecasts For Spring, Summer Dropping

* New Executive Manager For BPA Fish/Wildlife Division Discusses Funding Issues With NW Power/Conservation Council

* Washington Wolf Report: 126 Wolves, 27 Packs; First Pack West Of Cascade Crest Documented

* Oregon Wolf Report Documents Minimum Count Of 137 Wolves, 16 Packs

* Washington Gov. Inslee Appoints Patrick Oshie To Northwest Power And Conservation Council

* With Low Water Supplies Forecasted, Inslee Declares Drought Emergency For Okanogan, Methow, Upper Yakima

* Study Uses Advanced Simulations To Project Outcomes Of Bull Trout Reintroduction In Pend Oreille River Basin In 200 Years

* Montana Requires All Watercraft Travelling Across Continental Divide To Columbia Basin To Be Inspected For Invasive Species

* Elwha River Fishing Closure Extended Two Years To Aid Re-Colonizing Salmonids After Dam Removal; Some Adults Up To River Mile 40

Fish & Game News:

Upper Salmon River Steelhead fishing report

By Brent Beller, Fisheries Technician
Monday, April 8, 2019

During the week of April 1, the majority of steelhead angler effort on the upper Salmon River was located either near the Pahsimeroi River confluence or upstream of the East Fork Salmon River in location code 19. Angler effort downstream of Salmon was minimal and no angler interviews were obtained.

Anglers interviewed downstream of the Pahsimeroi River confluence in location code 17 averaged 24 hours per steelhead caught. Anglers interviewed near Challis in location code 18 averaged 42 hours per steelhead caught, and anglers interviewed upstream of the East Fork in location code 19 averaged 6 hours per steelhead caught. Check the Harvest Report for more details.

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F&G Commission sets migratory game bird seasons and adjusts wolf hunt in two units

By Brian Pearson, Conservation Public Information Specialist
Thursday, April 11, 2019

Meeting by conference call on April 11, the Idaho Fish and Game Commission set seasons for migratory game birds for 2019-20, and amended wolf hunting seasons in Units 51 and 50 for the 2019-20 and 2020-21 seasons.

The seasons for migratory game birds will remain mostly the same as the 2018-19 seasons, with a few exceptions:

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Tundra swans are dying from historic mine waste in the Coeur d’Alene River Basin

By Kiira Siitari, Regional Communications Manager
Tuesday, April 9, 2019

Ongoing cleanup and restoration efforts are underway to help prevent this annual die off

Panhandle Region Fish and Game staff have received numerous calls about dead tundra swans in the lower Coeur d’Alene River Basin, particularly around Harrison Slough. The deaths are attributed to poisoning from mine waste contamination found in the wetland sediments where the birds forage.

Each spring, an average of 150 tundra swans are found dead or sick along the Coeur d’Alene River floodplain. The spring of 2019 is shaping up to be a noticeably bad season for migrating swans. This may be due to a combination of factors, including timing and distribution of ice melt, water levels in the floodplain, and length of time the migrating swans stayed in the area while on their way to breeding grounds in Alaska.

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More F&G News Releases

Fun Critter Stuff:

Baby zebra born at Idaho Falls Zoo

Apr 12, 2019 Local News 8

Idaho Falls, Idaho (KIFI/KIDK) – The Idaho Falls Zoo announced the birth of its new female Plains Zebra named Ayana on Friday.

Ayana was born on Tuesday, April 9.


Seasonal Humor:


Idaho History April 14, 2019


(Warm Lake area)

Thunderbolt Mountain Elevation 8,652 ft

This granite dome is viewed as you approach the summit. [1990]

Copyright Tom Lopez; Idaho: A Climbing Guide
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Thunderbolt Mountain is located in central Idaho’s Salmon River Mountains, just north of Warm Lake. Tom Lopez says this peak may have the best views in the entire rage. There is an active fire lookout on its summit, and a maintained trail that can be used to reach the summit during summer months.

source: Dave Pahlas 2013 IdahoAlpineZone (maps and photos)
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Topographic Map of Thunderbolt Mountain


source: MyTopo
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Thunderbolt Post Office

Thunderbolt mine located 4 miles up Cabin Creek from Paradise Valley

1905, Nov. 17 a post office was established at Thunderbolt with Wm. L. Standatler as postmaster.

It was discontinued Sept. 29, 1906 with Knox as the nearest post office.

From the book Post Marked Idaho.

Excerpted from: Warm Lake History by LeRoy Meyer

See also: Valley County Post Office History
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Warm Lake District

At the property of the Trappers’ Flat Mining Company, near Warm Lake, a large force of men was employed during the entire year of 1905 in mining development and mill construction, and a large reserve of good milling ore has been blocked out with the quiet, extensive underground development accomplished.

A saw mill was installed and extensive camp equipment in the way of buildings was put up, together with a modern, up-to-date 10-stamp mill and aereal [sic] tramway. This new plant was expected to be put in commission on January 1, 1906, and the mine with which it is connected is said to afford a resource of $10.00 gold ore that can not be exhausted [sic] in several years’ steady operation.

source: the Idaho Mining Report 1905, p. 67: Warm Lake District
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1906 Thunderbolt

Feb 1, 1906
Trappers Flat – The mill owned by this company, situated on Thunderbolt mountain, was started last week. Manager George M. Snow anticipates making a long and successful run.
pg. 119

Feb 22, 1906
G. M. Snow, manager of the Trappers Flat Mining Company, operating on Thunderbolt mountain, Idaho, is in New York.
pg. 196

Feb 22, 1906
Trappers Flat – The mill at this property was started under full head on January 15th, but was obliged to close down one battery owing to a shortage of water. An abundance of ore is on hand, and as soon as the water supply is again available the full quota of ten stamps will be operated.
pg. 201

March 16, 1906
Trappers Flat – Manager George M. Snow states that the mill on this property has been started successfully and is handling about twenty-three tons of ore daily. The mill is equipped with five stamps and Wilfiey tables, and the latter are producing a good grade of concentrates running considerably over $100 per ton. The ore is concentrating about twenty tons into one.
pg. 277

April 19, 1906
Geo. M. Snow, manager of the Trappers Flat Mining Co., operating on Thunderbolt mountain, Idaho, has returned from a business trip to New York City.
pg. 396

April 19, 1906
Trappers Flat – Manager George M. Snow states that the company is so well pleased with the results obtained in the mill that an additional ten stamps will be installed this summer. A cyanide equipment will also be added to treat the concentrates instead of shipping them.
pg. 399

May 10, 1906
Milling operations in different parts of the state were well under way last month. At the Trappers’ Flat … the performance of the plant was so satisfactory that an additional ten stamps will probably be installed this summer.
pg. 473

excerpts from: Mining Reporter – Volume 53 – Feb 1, 1906 – Google Books
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Thunderbolt Mill and Mine

By Ron Smith

Located Northeast of Knox was the Thunderbolt Mill and Mine. Bob Barr, an early settler in the Knox, Warm Lake area, states that this was a typical gold investment scheme. The investors lost their money to the promoters. A bucket tramway was constructed to deliver ore from the mine to the mill. According to Mr. Barr the mill had two stamps to process the ore. A sawmill was also installed.

After a period of time with no dividends paid to the stockholders, the money for the mine operation was halted. This also stopped all work at the mine. As so often happens, the mine workers and local merchants didn’t receive the money owed to them.

excerpted from: South Fork of the Salmon River Mines, “Pans, Picks and Shovels, Mining in Valley County, Idaho”, Valley County History Project
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Bob Barr Interview

This is transcribed from an audio-recorded interview that Dick Wilkie and Skip Dolphin made while visiting with Bob Barr in the early 1950’s. Bob Barr was an early settler in Paradise Valley, north of Warm Lake one mile. They started off talking about the mine platted as the Golden Bar Placer Mine on Cabin Creek northerly 4 miles from Paradise Valley.

Barr: Just a big pile of timbers I guess. Yeah, there’s nothing left there now. You know (Bill) Kesler I think claimed that and he took dynamite and shot it down. You’ve seen the picture down there … haven’t you? Well he claimed they owed him for stuff there at the hotel and he claimed he shot that down and hauled out a lot of lumber. That cabin where I lived was the assay office that was like new stuff. They had a sawmill up there you know to make all that and he gave that to his nephew when he took that, I guess he got him to take the lease down there (Warm Lake Hotel). He was a Pritter, Pritters back in to the Cinnabar Mine.

Wilkie: Well the mine was right under the building then, huh?

B: Yeah, they had two big stamp mills down in the bottom there they was all in, everything was in running order the first time I was there. Pig Starr took us right there and we stopped down the road, there was a little barn down there to get the four horses in and we packed our grub box and everything up there. They had slab wood about three feet long. Oh you could have a roaring hot fire there and we dried out and we camped right in there. We made us a grub box out of some of that new lumber while we was there. I don’t think we had any saw, just whittled across it. We stayed there till the weather was over.

W: What kind of ore did they get out of there, silver wasn’t it?

B: Gold was it, what was supposed to be, they never got any. If there was ever any that showed up in there the fellow that was running that stole it. He skipped out just before the stop orders began to come in from back east. A fellow by the name of Snow was superintendent there. I don’t know, maybe it was like the mine Reach, old Airpreson, Halloway and them down there, old Richards, maybe he put the gold in it that was taken out. They sold it, them days you could sell anything that (the name) gold mine would use. Old (John) Reeves, old (Elmer) Bell and John Knox, now the one that had the cabin here by Warm Lake. They was all in that (mine). They had a cabin that was made out of great big logs right over north of us a little ways. It was a standing when I was new up in there. I don’t know if they, how they worked it, they sold it and got plenty of money out of it, if there wasn’t anything in it. They put in that mill and they had a double cable there that brought that ore down and when the buckets full, the great big buckets, and sent the empty back when the one come down.

Young boy: Where is the Thunderbolt mine at?

W: Right where we went to, the big pile of timbers.

B: You see it was on the hill above where the old mill was.

W: Oh!

B: That’s where the cable come down from, that’s where the old cabin was.

W: Well there was a building up there over the mine or something wasn’t there?

B: Oh yes. They had a new building built over the mine, over everything. The sheriff took that. I don’t know as they had much on the rift. They just took it, hoisted that up and put it in the buckets and ran it down on the cable about a quarter of a mile and they had a road that went right around the hill. I was up there a lot of times.

W: Was the tunnel way up on the hill, is it?

B: Yeah, just a straight down shaft down to that and they was shoveling out the ore. They had a… old Reeves and old Bell and John Knox was all in that and they had a cabin there right over north of the shaft where the gold mine was. When they sold it this company built that mill. Two big stamp mills to work that ore and a big crusher you know, it came in at the top, the cable did.

W: That’s the stamp mill in the picture over there in your cabin is it?

B: That’s the mill just above the road. They had a lot of houses around there, new cabins, the first time I was there.

W: And the shaft is right up the hill behind it.

B: Right up west. I guess about a quarter. They had a road that ran around it was a mile or more to it by the road to get around by wagons you know. I went that way quite a lot of times hunting for birds and huckleberries and up that road there was plenty of birds and huckleberries both. They had an old time cabin and then down this side of there about one and a half miles or so old John Knox had a cabin of his own. They all had several rich claims but old John Knox and old Reeves and Bell was in that. Old Reeves I recon he was the big shot, he got $17,000 for his part. I think old Bell and old Knox just got $10,000 apiece. That is enough money if you took care of it and if you left the fools alone. That fall old Reeves went back to St. Louis and stayed all winter and came back dead broke and ready for someone to grub stake him. I never did feel very sorry for him.

Deadwood Area Mining: Of course he got in on the Deadwood (mining) and got somebody to grub stake him down there. I guess when that Bunker Hill and Sullivan took over that tall mine down there he could have sold out and got money out of that. Old Baker, old Bill Baker who lived here in Scott Valley, he had a shaft right there in their way, right under where they dumped that stuff and they offered him $3,000 for it. He had 20 acres and you get 20 acres with every claim you know and they wanted that timber too. No, old Bill wanted $30,000 for it so he died on a little pension he got. He never got anything out of the mine. They wanted to get him out of the way and dump their millings right there you know, where his shaft was and they would use a lot of that timber he had, he had on that 20 acres, not all of it had timber. That $3,000 would have done him quite a bit of good and he was awful hard up. But he was afraid they was going to make a million-dollar mine out of it, but they ran at a loss all 8 years there. They mailed out a lot of stuff and hauled it in but ran at a loss all the time. It never did pay its way. During the war (WWII) they got the government to back them down. Old Reverend Davis out here, he got a company St. John National Zinc Co. to take it over and run it and the government had to pay a lot there. I knew lots of fellows that was working there. I was there at Landmark. They said if the government or something was paying it that they wasn’t selling enough stuff out of there. They ate meals and stamp hauled it out and got everything they could find. The government wouldn’t let them quit on account of that lead and zinc in there. That mostly was silver in that; they didn’t care so much about that in time of war. As quick as the war was over the government withdrew there half, it went down right then.

W: It never made any money, huh?

B: Well they had some ore in there, they thought they would strike a big knot of it you know and they were doing that. The Bunker Hill and Sullivan would get, as long as they were developing it they would get their money back on income tax and finally after they got to milling it they couldn’t get anything back. Then they developed where they thought maybe they were going to make some money out of it but silver, that was what they had to most of, got down so low it wouldn’t near pay its way. Then they wanted to shut down for a while and wait till silver came up so it would pay expenses, the stockholders there in Boise, some were Hawe and Jack Troy and a few of them like that wouldn’t let them. They said they would keep all the tunnels open and everything ready to go as quick as silver came back up to where it had been, but in less than two years silver came back up to more than twice what it was when they shut down. They had it opened up and running again but they kept on until all them died paupers.

Young male: How did Cupp Brown get its name?

B: Some old fellow by the name of Cupp Brown …

B: I guess he was a younger fellow that had sheep up in there. I don’t know if he was Sam Cupps father or what, I knew him in here.

W: Well he built an old cabin up there then, huh? Well Cupps did. Well there’s an old cabin up there.

B: Well I don’t know if he built that or not. There was a trapper cabin somewhere up there.

W: Maybe that’s it.

B: Yeah, but I guess Cupp ran sheep through there and made them corrals about working the sheep you know. He came in there in the spring and had that, but I’ve known Cupp corrals ever since I had been in the country. I don’t know how it was named. I knew a packer Sam Cupps back in here about as no good a fellow that ever breathed. He paid all of his bills with checks back in here. Never did know of anybody who got a dollar on one. If he got a hold of any money why he took it in his pocket. They say he was a good driver and a good packer and all but dump master of …on earth and never paid anything. I didn’t have a chance to teach him, and finally somewhere back up here I seen in a paper where one of then poison rocky mountain wood ticks bit him and killed him. I never thought them things ever done any good before. It was good they killed as no good a tramp as he was. Done a little good.

Grizzly bear:

Now him and Cy Johnson packed that old millionaire oilman in that come up for the summer. He come to Nampa and come from Bunker City, old Mack Passage it was getting way up in years, then turned 70’s he liked hounds I guess. He had 40 hounds. He had metal crates made for all of them. Money was no object to him. He had a young wife. I expect he had set a lot of money on her when she married him. Fairly good looking gal but she come through in the fall and went back to the camp in Chamberlain Basin where they was going to try and get a grizzly but they never did get any. I heard old Cy say several times, there’s never a grizzly in the Basin. There wasn’t any in the country but then old Sam Phillips getting on a big drunk in the fall started on, a big snowstorm caught them on the other side of Landmark and they lost their horses. There was one along the trail they found, old Sam put the poison in that and killed a grizzly bear. Somebody was with him, I don’t know who, later on, he had one that belonged to me (horse), it and two more got way back of the Chillkoot Pass, I seen the bones where they died over there and old Stone was trapping in there when they was two of them there. He said he seen them after they got snowed in way high and didn’t have his pistol with him. The next time he came back he brought his pistol but one of them was dead and he shot the other one (horse). But that old Lilly he was along, old Lilly the fellow that hunted in Colorado with Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt got him to hunt bear with him in there. He said there was sign of grizzly in there on the trees. Their claws are different than other bears. For the last 20 years there was one over their where I worked on the head of Meadow Creek. I would see its tracks about every fall but it would den up somewhere right in there. See they have great long claws that stick out of their long fingers, out from their pads. But I don’t know what went with that. I never did hear anything about any tracks of it or anything after I quit staying back there. Which I would see them tracks every fall in there. He had a place he denned up in some cave or something with a bed in there you know. They stay around, all them bear have their place fixed to winter.

Horse thief:

I went one summer, I and another fellow we had a wagon and three horses and got up in there and stayed till, he stayed till he claimed he had to go home that week. We camped at the mouth of Sulphur Creek, oh Lord; fine fishing there. As we came in we met a big bunch of horses and some old mining man, that was old Con Murphy. He went to the pen for old Con Dewey when Conner’s killed a man down there once. He shot him in a fight and some way old Murphy took it upon himself and took the rifle. (Laughter.) The view is they was kind of taking care of him after he got out of the penitentiary. He was getting pretty old then.

We left them at the ford and we come on up and we met the horses back on this side and Wes Wyatt was riding a big buckskin horse and just as we, I was coming out of there for some more grub and George was a going to take his team and wagon, they was his, and go back to Ole (Ola). He claimed he had some big business there. I didn’t have any and I don’t think he did either. Just as we was getting up there old Clint turned this horse around, the other side to us, and after we got there he said did you notice Clint turned that horse around so we couldn’t see the brand on it? I said yeah, it was a big buckskin horse and stole out of a pasture there by Montour. They took it down.

Jeff Dokin he had a horse ranch down in Oregon. They would take them off down there, get them in the night you know, on that hill with the Masters boy Claude De Masters and another feller and they took another horse and in a week or so here they would come back with their saddle on the fringe. They would get a little money out of their catch. I don’t know, Duncan brought a big bunch of horses up and taken back and old Clint in with him you know. He turned that horse around he thought we might well he’d have done that with anybody so they couldn’t see the brand on it. I come out and got my grub and went back.

George, sheep man, took a job as bodyguard down on Sulphur Creek. He was down and around there quite a bit. We had to get our camp back up on Sulphur Creek and back up on the hill when Traylor Kinder was working on the trail a little. When I got back he said they come in there and old Sam Phillips had that horse there. He said he was up after his horses.

God, I don’t know why I can’t think of his name. They were Scotchman’s I knew that oldest boy that ran sheep, when I was there at Knox. The old man finally had to have a leg took off and died, the old father of him. He said, old Sam take my new horse and ride up there after his. Well he said he rode that horse for me, knew the brand and everything. He said that buckskin horse was stole out of a pasture there at Montour. I forget who it was that had it. Then, big buckskin, he said and I rode in. Says I took and rode him up and got my hara and your gates and everything. Says what would you do about it? I said I think I’d get word to that fellow that was the horse still out. So I guess he did.

Anyway they got word and when Duncan and them, when they brought the horses out they had 50 head or so. They brought them out, there was somebody watching them at Cascade but that horse wasn’t in the bunch. A couple of days after that Duncan came through there leading that horse behind a buckboard he was driving. But they went down there and got him. Found out about him going through there you know then they went down to his ranch with an officer and got the horse. But that old Clint, I’ve been acquainted with him a long time there at Ole (Ola), he was pretty hard up for money.

(Break in talk.) I don’t know about that. (Barking sound.) I had 8 ewes and 8 lambs in there and I had ….

This next segment was apparently recorded years later because Bob Barr’s voice sounds much older.

[B]: The silver blutton they called it. But I never did fish in there but I think there’s fish in it. I don’t know why there wouldn’t have been. They was little bull trout all the way up in Reardon Creek.

Young male: Have you ever, did you ever hear about the lost Cleveland mine or something like that?

B: The lost which? Cleveland, oh I guess I have, I don’t remember now. There’s so many of them lost mines that were just so rich you could just scoop up the gold nuggets in them. Never did find many of them much after I was in here. I know I never got anything out of them.

Young male: That old boy looks like he’s traveled mine up there to the gentleman’s bear.

B: Yeah, that’s a very poor picture. Bear don’t bother you that a way and grizzlies will go to Wanashawan you know. When down at Given Springs Barry told me once he was a hiding out he was, they had him in the pen a good deal of the time them days for horse stealin’ and one thin and another. He and some feller was makin’ a run on some one and they went up on the third fork and then they come across a trail that came in somewhere over there. He said up through there was a great big bear a comin’, it cut across just before it got to ‘em, come along about 20 yards out there and the other fellow said don’t shoot at that bear, said that’s a grizzly and you cripple him and he’ll kill us. I don’t know if he had a notion to shoot that or not. I suppose they had some kind of a rifle. He said he was a great big brown bear long slung. There was kind of a crook in the trail where he seemed, where he wanted to head, he just went out to one side and went along.

Possibly at Knox:

B: One time I was cutting hay, I had pretty good hay crops there, timothy and stuff and then get it chopped and haul in there and pack it back in them little old log buildings they built in the Thunder Mountain boom you know. We would pack it about as far as the back of this house. I guess he thought I looked a little mad, I didn’t have anybody helping me and he told me, when I had only worked an hour or so he could work like a fool for that long but that would do. He told me, I had it all cut then and when I got that in why and the (irrigation) water on it, I could take a little striped leg mule and have a week off. Well I got it off the upper part. There was a road that went down to where he had an old cabin right across the edge of the woods over there.

Paul Limeings family was living in that and I turned it on (irrigation water) that when I got the hay off and it run off and it run off down there and ran all around the house. The kids had a lot of fun paddling around in that water. I was afraid maybe she would get a little mad but she didn’t. Then I got old Clint Warnickton to come up there and shock some I had below. One evening he had come in from Pistol Creek. He had a lot of horses, most of them was stolen horses I guess, they were way down toward the mouth of Pistol Creek. Greg had told me I could have a week off you know. Old Clint thought that would be a good place. You could get all the fish you want anywhere.

A fellow was freighting into the sheep camp at Reardon Lake. They had a camp right there where the Reardon Creek goes in right where I camped. I camped a little above that when we went in there to work. He said, oh my God you can get all the fish you want over there.

But I kind of wanted to go to the Middle fork I’d heard a great deal about that and I got somebody to write me a map where to turn from Landmark here and there on up by Whiskey Creek and went down there. Dragging that little old mule with house keeping outfit on it. I didn’t know anything about packing then and thought I had a terrible load on it but guess I didn’t have much. I finally went over the summit that goes down close to that little town of Sulphur Creek that leads up to the summit there. But the sheep had been on that. I just kept a goin’ and goin’. The mule he was pullin’ back and me was pullin’ hard. Greg told me to turn the mule loose ahead of me and I was afraid it would get away from me with my camp outfit and grub and everything.

I went on until the sun went behind the hill and I camped in that little meadow where they have a corduroy bridge now and a big spring right across the creek from me and I didn’t know it. Right there I camped in the trail, a snow slide and things on one side. The mule couldn’t get by me there so I turned it loose and made camp right there. That’s where I caught my first red side. I cast out in there, riding along you could see some of them trout in there, just, or salmon everywhere. Well I cast out in there and caught a red side and cast back and caught another one. Next morning I got where I could see down in there it was right over a salmon bed they was around there eating the eggs.

Boy: How big were they?

B: The red side? Oh from 1 to 3 pounds. I put a handle in my spear that night. I took it along with me salmon fishing, a salmon spear. Got one right off the nest. I thought I might get the eggs maybe for bait but they were all gone, it had layed up. There was a big tent up right across the meadow there. I’d never seen that when I camped. Next morning when I got ready to go I went over to there to see, I’d never seen nor heard nothing of my mule. I had a little bell on it and had it hobbled. I went over there to hunt it up and there was a big tent. A lot of whiskey kegs layed around.

Old Sam Phillips had brought up a bunch of cattle for somebody to summer in there and he didn’t want to waste any time and so he would stay there at the big spring and watch ‘em from going back and make whiskey while he was there and not lose any money. I just went over the ridge and heard the bell and went down and there was my little mule and 4 or 5 horses with it. I went back and packed up and when I got back there I came down to the flat there was old Dick Sanford. We always called him old Bean Billy Dick, in camp right across in front of where Prescott’s cabin is (at Warm Lake, Lot 2) is right down to the creek and cooking a big pot of beans and set there till he would eat them up. Ever day he would eat on ‘em.

That’s the way it was, somebody in Boise gave him the outfit he had, wanted to get rid of him and he came up the Boise River and going back to Warm Lake. I think I would have turned the horses loose, there was feed all up and down the river and fished around in there, going and get me a couple of good fish ever time I wanted to eat.

Are you still camping on Tripod?

Dolphin: No we are on Lodgepole.

B: Did you see in the paper where they found a meteor (meteorite) that hit a tree on Lodgepole?

D: Yeah, I found that, I’m the guy that found it. Yeah, that’s why I wanted to see your paper.

B: Yeah, well I’ve got the Cascade paper in there. I don’t know but I thought I seen that in the Boise paper, said the tree was hollow and rotten in there, I suppose it was a yellow pine maybe.

D: No it was a big white fir. Yeah, but that burnt down in there.

B: You know I seen one of them things go by one spring while having guard training there at Crawford. We went, we just went to bed, they had a little hay in the barn, open in the west, all at once there was a big light busted in there. My God, lighter than the city, I rolled out and went back to look and it looked like it was going slow and looked low. Great big light and it went on a little while, the damnedest boom I ever heard. Old Drake said it hit right there somewhere but nobody ever did find where it hit.

He thought Jim Carpenter had got his powder and blowed up himself. He was working on the road up on the summit. It looked like it was going right square toward Knox and it probably was higher than I thought. I don’t know if it hit somewhere but nobody saw it, they thought all summer somebody would run onto it, where it hit. Dwight thought his man Friday he had working on the road, thought his man had blowed up his powder cache up there, but he hadn’t.

D: I got about half of that over by the fence.

B: What’s it like?

W: It’s like a burnt lava rock, yeah.

B: I worked one summer where there was a big one fell over by, east of Walla Walla Washington kinda black rock there. Old fellow had homesteaded there, he hauled a big hunk to the park and left it. I don’t know how much was in the ground, it stuck up 5 or 6 feet. It was a big one that had landed there.

D: I chopped into this tree to put the fire out, see. In the center of the tree. I hit it with the edge of the pulaski, it bent the edge of the pulaski out of sight. It was like hitting a rock. It was quite hot. Oh man it was hot. You could get anything you wanted out of it too. Water came out of it, rolled down the burn. I wouldn’t believe it if I hadn’t seen it. You wouldn’t know they would be that much water in it.

Music on the tape

Transcribe from the audiotape by LeRoy Meyer Sept. 20, 2000.

source: Warm Lake History by LeRoy Meyer
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1923 Thunderbolt Lookout

Thunderbolt lookout was built of logs and rebuilt in 1961-1962 using helicopters to transport material.

Excerpted from: Warm Lake History by LeRoy Meyer
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1994 Thunderbolt Fire

Thunderbolt Mountain fire burnt north of the lake 3 miles & north.

Excerpted from: Warm Lake History by LeRoy Meyer
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Thunderbolt Fire Recovery

Boise and Payette National Forests

Thunderbolt by Stephen E. Lyman C. 1995, The Greenwich Workshop, Inc. Reproduced with the permission of the Greenwich Workshop, Inc. Shelton, CT 06484

Prolonged drought, dense timber stands, and large areas of insect infested or killed trees, contributed to another summer of large catastrophic wildfires on the Boise and Payette National Forests in 1994. The Chicken, Thunderbolt, and portions of the Corral and Blackwell wildfires burned in excess of 150,000 acres in the South Fork Salmon River drainage of the Boise and Payette National Forests in central Idaho.

… The wildfires of 1994 resulted in a changed condition to the South Fork Salmon River basin that was unforeseen in the Boise and Payette Forests Plans. Much of the more than 150,000 acres that burned were contiguous areas. adjacent to the river. Resulting sedimentation is expected to be high for the next 3 to 5 years. Adverse effects to fish habitat and a reduced probability of reaching the stated Desired Future Condition of restored fish habitat will result.

… The Thunderbolt Wildfire burned a total of 18,827 acres of Boise and Payette National Forest System lands in the fall of 1994. Burn intensities in the Thunderbolt Wildfire area varied considerably. Within the fire perimeter, about 5,935 acres burned at high intensity, 8,886 acres at moderate intensity, and 4,006 acres at low intensity.

An estimated 16,271 acres burned within Inventoried Roadless Areas (IRA’s). The IRA’s affected are Caton Lake and Meadow Creek. The fire burned adjacent to or within the river corridors of Johnson Creek (eligible for Recreation classification) and South Fork Salmon River, which are both pending Wild and Scenic River study.

excerpted from: Thunderbolt Wildfire Recovery Project, Valley County, Idaho (24 megs)
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2005 Thunderbolt Lookout


Location: 24.8 miles Cascade, Idaho
Elevation 8654 ft.
GPS Coordinate: 44.7326 -115.64

link: The Pictures of Cascade Photo Gallery by area resident Mike Huston
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Thunderbolt is on the left

Photo by Dave Putman April 1, 2016

Link to Warm Lake History part 1

Link to Warm Lake History part 2

Road Reports April 14, 2019

Rain on snow is bringing down the snow pack, sometimes into the roads and rivers. Roads were blocked on and off Sunday night thru Tuesday. The only way to get to Yellow Pine is via the South Fork route. It is still travel at your own risk and remember there is no cell phone service. Trees and/or rocks may be down in the road. Higher elevation roads are closed. Conditions change VERY quickly this time of year. Please share road reports and take photos of rocks and slides so they can be passed along to the plow operator.

Yellow Pine: We have received almost 2 1/2″ of rain in this last week. Local streets are mostly bare. Click for Local Forecast.
Yellow Pine Webcam: (check date on image)

Warm Lake Highway: The snotel site indicated new snow on Big Creek summit this morning. Last report Wednesday (Apr 10) “icy on the west side.”
SNOTEL Big Creek Summit 6580′

Highway 55 Webcams Link:
Watch for potholes.

South Fork Road: Report Wed (Apr 10) the SF is mostly bare, mail truck driver had to stop 3 times on the way in to move large rocks out of the road. Watch for fresh rockfall and trees in the road.
Note: The maintenance by Valley County has ended for the season and turned back to the USFS.
Tea Pot Weather Station 5175′
South Fork Stream Gauge:

EFSF Road: Last report the local plow went out and cleaned the “bowling alley” April 9th. Mail truck driver reported on Wed (Apr 10) that the EFSF road is mostly bare, a little snow on this end. No rocks to move. The log jam near the Eiguren Ranch has broken up and moved down river.

Lower Johnson Creek Road: Mail truck driver reported on Wed (Apr 10) the road is bare out to Wapiti Meadow Ranch.
Johnson Creek Airstrip Webcam:
Johnson Creek Stream Gauge:

Upper Johnson Creek Road: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
The elevation at Landmark is 6,630 feet

Lick Creek: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The elevation at Lick Creek Summit is 6,877 feet

Profile Creek Road: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The elevation at Profile summit is 7607 feet.

Big Creek Webcam: (check date on image)

Yellow Pine to Stibnite: Road may be still closed. Report on Tuesday (Apr 9) “An overnight slide is currently blocking a section of Stibnite Road and the East Fork of the South Fork of the Salmon River. Right now, a half mile stretch of the road is blocked near Tamarack Creek and, in places, the river is running up onto the road. Our team is developing a plan to safely clear the slide and we will start work as soon as possible. We are closely coordinating all of our efforts with our state and federal partners.” Midas Gold

Stibnite Weather Station 6594′

Stibnite to Thunder Mountain: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The elevation at Monumental Summit is 8590 feet.

Big Creek to Elk Summit to Warrens Road: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The elevation at Elk Summit is nearly 9000 feet.

Deadwood Summit: Closed to wheeled vehicles.
Note: The approx elevation at Deadwood Summit is 6,883 feet.
SNOTEL Deadwood Summit 6860′

Payette Avalanche Advisory Last report for the season.

Easter Peek-a-Boo Pound Cake

High Altitude Pound Cake


2 2/3 cups all-purpose flour
1 3/4 cups granulated sugar
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 teaspoon salt
4 large eggs
3/4 cup milk
3/4 cup butter
10 drops lemon essential oil (optional)
1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla extract


Preheat oven to 350F.

Sift together flour, sugar, baking powder, and salt.

Break eggs into another bowl.

Add butter and cream with beater.

Add milk to the eggs and butter; mix.

Beat together the butter and egg mixture with the flour mixture on medium speed for 3 minutes.

Add milk, lemon essential oil, and vanilla.

Beat batter on medium speed for 2 minutes.

Pour batter into 2 greased and floured 9-inch loaf pans.

Bake for 1 hour, or until a toothpick inserted in the center comes out clean.

Cool completely with cake upright in the pan.
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Assembling the Peek-a-Boo Cake

You will need

1 recipe of pound cake
cookie cutter of your choice that is not taller than your pan
food coloring of your choice


Mix up one recipe of pound cake batter. Do not bake at this point.

Divide batter in half and tint one half to your desired color, leaving the other half uncolored.

Pour colored batter into 1 9-inch loaf pan and bake according to recipe directions.

Cover the uncolored half and set aside until ready to use.

When colored cake is baked, allow to cool completely.

Slice cake into slices as wide as your cookie cutter.

Use your cookie cutter to cut a shape out of each slice.

Spoon a thin layer of uncolored cake batter onto the bottom of a greased and floured 9-inch loaf pan.

Carefully place cut-outs down the middle of the pan and place them as close together as possible.

Spoon remaining batter over the cut-outs. You may find you don’t need to use all the batter. (I found it easier to keep the shapes from tipping or breaking by using a piping bag to squeeze the batter around the shapes.)

Bake at 350F for another 60 minutes or until a toothpick inserted in the center comes out clean.

Allow to cool 10 minutes in the pan, then remove and cool completely on a wire rack.

How To Make Naturally Dyed Easter Eggs

What You’ll Need


Hard-boiled eggs, room temperature (white or brown eggs, preferably not super-fresh)
1 cup chopped purple cabbage per cup of water
1 cup red onion skins per cup of water
1 cup yellow onion skins per cup of water
1 cup shredded beets per cup of water
2 tablespoons ground turmeric per cup of water
1 bag Red Zinger tea per cup of water
White distilled vinegar (1 tablespoon per cup of strained dye)
Liquid neutral oil, such as vegetable or grapeseed


Saucepan with lid
White dish
Fine-mesh strainer
A second saucepan or bowl
Baking dish or other container
Paper towels


Gather your ingredients: You can make separate batches of different colors or one large batch of a single color. Follow the ratios given above for each ingredient to make more or less dye.

Add water to a saucepan: Pour the amount of water you need for the dye you’re making into a saucepan.

Start making the dye: Add the dye matter (purple cabbage, onion skins, etc.) and bring the water to a boil.

Adjust the heat: Turn the heat down to low and simmer, covered, for 15 to 30 minutes.

Check the color: The dye is ready when it reaches a hue a few shades darker than you want for your egg. Drip a little dye onto a white dish to check the color. When the dye is as dark as you like, remove the pan from the heat and let the dye cool to room temperature. (I put the pot on my fire escape and it cooled off in about 20 minutes.)

Strain the dye: Pour the cooled dye through a fine-mesh strainer into another saucepan (or into a bowl then back into the original pan if that’s all you have).

Add vinegar: Stir the vinegar into the dye — use 1 tablespoon of vinegar per cup of strained liquid.

Pour the dye over the eggs: Arrange the room-temperature eggs in single layer in a baking dish or other container and carefully pour the cooled dye over them. Make sure the eggs are completely submerged.

Put the eggs in the fridge: Transfer the eggs in the dye to the refrigerator and chill until the desired color is reached.

Dry and oil the eggs: Carefully dry the eggs, and then massage in a little oil to each one. Polish with a paper towel. Store the eggs in the refrigerator until it is time to eat (or hide) them.

Recipe Notes

You can also start with raw eggs and cook them in the dye bath as described in this post on onion-skin eggs. I found that with dyes like the Zinger tea and beets, the color was more concentrated with the refrigerator method. Of course, this method requires clearing out some space in the refrigerator.

If you want your eggs to be more vibrant and less pastel, give the eggs multiple soaks in the dye, being sure to dry them between stints in the dye.